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Probably not a great idea to comment on the minor weight variations of 11 year old girls; their weight is significantly influenced by hormones. I read the whole article (my kids, both disturbingly skinny, are 12 and 14) but couldn't shake off the weird lack of empathy from that opening graf.


I agree it was kinda weird and misplaced.

Teen and especially preteen girls tend to be really skinny until they put on their adult fat. I remember fitting into a size 0 at 12 and 14, same with my sister, we were both healthy.

Then I looked at my yearbook about last year and I notice something, many girls were very very skinny, just like I was at that age. Many seemed to have the same kind of body. They didn't have the more adult body I (and many others I'm sure) grew into. In an unrelated conversation I had with a friend, she was mentioning about how her body has changed since she was in high school.

You can't really compare a child with an adult.


I like small details when reading stories. Even if unimportant, it's fine to put it there.


I agree, I'm not sure what relevance the girl's weight had to the paragraph.


The author says they were in the snack aisle and she was "begging for cookies". I read the reference to her weight as a clumsy way of implying that the girl's parents were giving in to her demands instead of teaching her what the snacks cost.

As a hook for the article I thought it was clumsy and unnecessary.


It's even more odd juxtaposed with the "a blue-collar type."

I think it's reasonable to say that this introduction suggests a middle class snobbishness towards the lower class. The worry is that by not teaching the kids correctly, the kids will end up in the lower class.

On the other side, it's also teaching people that they shouldn't want to be in the upper class, because then they would lose this important sense of money.


The hairiness of a hobbit's foot, his lack of shoes, the bright colors he wears and the pipe-weed he smokes are not very relevant to the War of the Ring. But mentioning it in the very beginning certainly helps to set the scene.


Don't be obtuse. What color was her hair? How tall was she? What was she wearing? None of that detail is present. This isn't scene-setting. It's a subtextual comment, and it's a clumsy and ignorant one. That's what bothered me about it: it's just bad writing. We get it, we get it: the author thinks lower-middle class families raise fat kids on junk food. Aha! There's one now!


He also mentioned that her father was "tall and muscular". What's the secret inner meaning of that?

A few small details are enough to generate immersion. The fact that you believe they were lower middle class in spite of the fact that he didn't mention it suggests you created a mental picture. I did too - in my mind the man was black, white t-shirt, a bit of grease on it. That's how the mind works, and writers exploit it.


"He was tall and muscular, a blue-collar type"

A blue collar worker is lower class by definition. As phrased above, the "tall and muscular" bit is part of the writer's observation/stereotype that the man is a blue collar worker. "He was big and strong and (therefore) looked like someone who works in manual labour".


Blue collar is manual work which is not the same thing as lower or lower middle class.


I don't think you seriously believe that this is an example of a writer simply trying to make the mental picture he was painting more vivid.


Look, I read it totally differently than you did. I don't think the secret inner meaning is remotely as clear as you are making it out to be.


OK, I'll let it go.


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> I mean it's not like it's doing them anything

Being overweight is very bad for your health.

http://www.healthline.com/health-news/heart-excess-weight-ra...


Being apparently mildly overweight when you're an 11 year old girl is probably not a health problem, because, again, puberty.


That article indicates, from a single study, that being overweight without MetS brings a slightly higher risk of heart disease compared to non-overweight persons without MetS. While interesting, this hardly qualifies as being overweight = bad for your health.


Dismissing a study based on it being single is idiotic.

The study was based on 71 ,527 individuals, it is statistically significant.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24217719

Let me guess, you're obese?


> Dismissing a study based on it being single is idiotic.

I am not dismissing this study. It is interesting and has merit as a study.

> The study was based on 71 ,527 individuals, it is statistically significant.

I am not disputing the study or its methodology, only that drawing a final conclusion about weight and heart health from a single study is generally a bad idea. Meta analysis of studies on being overweight and obese (EDIT: by BMI category) have shown different conclusions on the impact to health. This is covered under that linked news story paragraph titled 'Mixed Results from Previous Studies'.

> Let me guess, you're obese?

Not at all, I'm not even overweight. (EDIT: By BMI, I don't meet those categories. BMI is a horrible metric).


A difference of 10^-100% is statistically significant with a large enough sample size. The question of actual significance is how relevant is the measured difference. Statistical significance asks how likely it is that the difference actually exists.




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