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Does this mean they are incredibly expensive to insure?


A buddy close to underwriting heaves giant sighs and mutters darkly when anyone in his book of individual policies wants to insure one because yes.


Is that because after barely scraping by $80k or an $800/mth payment, they freak out why there’s another $300/mth?


Well at least the first two are paying for an asset, whereas the insurance payments are paying for something nebulous that you may or may not need. The ideal insurance premium is $0/month.


Er... I own one and it is maybe 10% more to insure than my previous Subaru.


How is that possible, just given the sheer cost difference? Or is most of your insurance policy covering liability (for if you hit other people), as opposed to the risk of damage to your own car?


It’s true. They are surprisingly cheap to insure. The current theory is that they are new and insurance companies don’t have enough data yet. Everyone expects rates to skyrocket as more $40k repair bills come in.


I kind of doubt rates will go up like that. It's not like BMWs, Audis, etc are much cheaper to repair (by "authorized repair shops" at least), and those similarly are not wildly more expensive to insure.


Because the cost of your vehicle is a small fraction of their total liability.

Suppose your insurance cost is 100$/month for a Subaru and 110$ for a R1T but only 90$/month for liability + personal injury. Now your total bill increased by 10% while they are charging you 2x to insure the vehicle itself.

They may also be getting this calculation wrong, but it’s unlikely to change that much.


For a while my new EV was less to insure than my older ICE both with full coverage and same driver listings. This last renewal the EV is now slightly more, by like $50/6mo




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