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Debatable, but even if this is true, and?


That maybe "censorship resistance" isn't the universal good some people make it out as. Maybe the people who benefit the most from it, and who make up the majority of those who actually benefit, are criminals. Maybe it's not a great idea to make tools that make it easier for criminals to commit crimes.


> That maybe "censorship resistance" isn't the universal good some people make it out as

How is it not? Not having it means that certain organisations and governments will be able to remove your ability to see certain things.

> Maybe the people who benefit the most from it, and who make up the majority of those who actually benefit, are criminals

Again, debatable. See all kinds of videos that are removed from youtube because either youtube thinks that they violate their tos or because someone makes a copyright claim on them for example.

But even if the majority of these who did benefit from it were criminals, I will ask again, and?

> Maybe it's not a great idea to make tools that make it easier for criminals to commit crimes.

How so? I would assume that most of these who make such tools have some form of ideology similar to anarchism and who do not think that every action that the government designates as a crime is morally evil. In addition a lot of these people believe that certain elites and government officials are the ones committing the biggest crimes and use such tools to enforce transparency and benefit from censorship resistance and anonimity.


> How is it not?

Because it helps criminals commit crimes. Not crimes as in "oh the government doesn't like you doing this", crimes as in theft, fraud, blackmail and child rape.


> crimes as in theft

You can't steal physical objects via TCP due to censorship resistance.

> fraud

If anything censorship resistance helps prevent fraud - consider someone deleting comments that talk about how their service is a fraud.

> blackmail

I do not see how censorship resistance has anything to do with blackmail.

> and child rape

I do not see how censorship resistance can help a criminal rape children via TCP.

But even if all of these were true, you are forgetting about the positive parts of censorship resistance.


> You can't steal physical objects via TCP due to censorship resistance.

You can steal money, and passwords. And you can steal things in the physical world and sell them over the internet.

> If anything censorship resistance helps prevent fraud

The entire Bitcoin economy gives a massive counterexample of this.

> I do not see how censorship resistance has anything to do with blackmail.

Censorship-resistant digital currencies like Bitcoin are massively used for ransomware and other forms blackmail.

> I do not see how censorship resistance can help a criminal rape children via TCP.

You are not so stupid that you would think anyone was ever making that argument. Do not feign stupidity, that never makes you look clever or convince anyone of your argument. I am ignoring this one and giving you a second chance to give a good-faith answer.


> You can steal money and passwords

Censorship resistance somehow helps you steal money and passwords via TCP? How?

(Regardless, I am not buying this whole "stealing numbers" thing)

> And you can steal things in the physical world and sell them over the internet.

Sure, how is censorship resistance relevant to this?

> The entire Bitcoin economy gives a massive counterexample of this.

Do you know of a lot of people who put advertisements of their companies on the blockchain?

Regardless (and I am going on an off-topic tangent here), anyone dealing in bitcoin should be aware of the fraud issue. You are not going around asking people to ban stoves because you decided that it would be a good idea to put your hand on one despite being aware of the potential complications.

> Censorship-resistant digital currencies like Bitcoin are massively used for ransomware and other forms blackmail.

Censorship resistance has again nothing to do with this. There is nothing stopping someone from including some form of "chargeback" command in a censorship-resistant cryptocurrency. I can't say for sure why this has not been done but I presume that most cryptocurrency users would not like to give the ability to a centralised institution to take their money away from them (I know for sure that the freelancers that use paypal are not too happy with this).

In addition there are a lot of real life services that do not offer the ability to chargeback yet they do not offer censorship resistance - western union for example.

> You are not so stupid that you would think anyone was ever making that argument

Rather than insulting people because you think that they misunderstood your post why not try to elaborate instead?




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