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		Tiksi on June 30, 2016 \| parent \| context \| favorite \| on: Spanish authorities raid Google offices over tax By that reasoning, the state does not have an innate right or authority to provide or guarantee human rights. And really, it's human's that guarantee the state's rights, not the other way around. The state is an abstract concept that exists only because humans gave it that right at some point.

venomsnake on June 30, 2016 [–]

Power gives right and authority. The only universal definition of state is monopoly over the use of force over any given territory.

Tiksi on June 30, 2016 | [–]

Yes but that monopoly is granted by the humans in the territory, and humans are the ones that exercise the state's power.

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