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> The unemployment rate is marginally higher than in the USA. It's bad here, but it's bad over there too... the recession never ended.

That's blatantly incorrect.

- The US unemployment rate is 9.7% on the U6. The Canadian equivalent would be closer to 13%-15% [1] (the Canadian R8 is not the equivalent of the U6). That's not a marginal difference, it's a significant difference. The US U6 rate peaked at near 18%, six years ago. A 50% reduction is a very obvious signal that the recession ended a long time ago. The U6 rate before the recession in 2006 was 9%. If the recession had never ended, the U6 rate would still be extremely elevated.

- The US has gained a massive number of full-time jobs since the recession. That metric is at a record high. [2a] [2b]

- Total US employment is six million higher than the peak before the recession.

- US manufacturing output is at all-time highs and has climbed dramatically since the recession [3]. Total construction spending on manufacturing in the US is three to four times higher than it was in 2002-2006. None of that would be happening if the US were in recession.

- Real hourly earnings have been expanding since 2012-2013 [4]. While simultaneously inflation has been tame by most measures. Hourly earnings are about 7% higher than 2006. If the recession hadn't ended, that would not be the case.

- Government tax revenue, which is highly dependent on income taxes, is at record highs.

- The labor force participation rate has been stable for three years, despite millions of boomers retiring.

- In terms of income vs debt, US households have dramatically de-leveraged from the debt highs leading up to the great recession, and are in far better shape than Canadian households [5a] [5b].

- US household median disposable incomes are among the highest on earth. That metric obviously would not be doing so well if the US had spent the last ten years in a recession. US GDP per capita is ranked #5 out of all nations, 25% higher than Canada - an excellent sign of high economic productivity. [6]

So US economic productivity is extremely high, US unemployment has fallen by 50% back to a historically healthy level, full-time employment is at record highs, wage growth has been outpacing inflation for years, household income to debt ratios have improved dramatically, household balance sheets have never been higher, manufacturing output is at record highs. Uh, so what's the problem exactly?

[1] http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/economy/ec...

[2a] http://i.imgur.com/ERDhQLZ.jpg

[2b] http://i.imgur.com/zCC6ytm.png

[3] https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/OUTMS

[4] http://i.imgur.com/5Q7c27x.jpg

[5a] http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/economy/ca...

[5b] http://business.financialpost.com/investing/outlook-2016/can...

[6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28no...



The US measures unemployment differently, you're right. Which one is a more accurate measure however is up for debate. Given the higher US poverty rate, lesser social services and lower minimum wage, I don't think underemployment in Canada and underemployment in the USA carry the same weight.

I should add current Canadian unemployment (as of March) is under 1% higher than the 2006 level as reported by StatsCan.

I think you can attribute the high level of Canadian household debt to the insane cost of real estate in urban Canada. Real estate prices have inflated dramatically.

You're right, I didn't use the word recession correctly. But I don't think anyone can reasonably argue Canada or the US are currently in boom time.

US GDP per capita may be higher than Canadian GDP per capita, sure, but US external debt is 114% of your GDP, versus 92% of Canada's.

I'm not an economist.


Not to mention Canadian household debt is setting records.




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