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Much like the description of the framework i think people are looking for a more specific answer to this question. I'm starting to think you are a super hero yourself. Captain Vague we'll call you.


I mostly try a framework to see what it can do. Looking at the documentation it seems like they are good enough to get me started.

Not sure what all these negative comments are doing here. Feels like half the people are asking for somebody to hold their penis and the other half is crying because they can't read Coffee-Script.


We have a winner.


Annoys me when i can't create an account on a site without a twitter or facebook account. Not everybody uses these services.


A twitter account is a pretty low bar. You don't have to use your real name and you don't have to tell anyone it exists.


But enough people do. Time to get on the bandwagon.


I view Facebook and Twitter as unnecessary playgounds for me. My objective is to limit my channels of communication so i don't have to micromanage all these unproductive services. I don't see why you'd want to limit your user base like this.


At what point did you stop applying that argument to sites that require an email address to sign up?


I'm not sure I understand your question - and if I do it sounds like you're trying to frame a very poor argument.


He's saying Twitter and Facebook are becoming, for today, what email was 10 years ago. You may have seen email as "an unproductive service" back then, because why would you email when you could call and write letters?

Then sites started requiring emails to sign up - and you signed up anyway. Why wouldn't sites just let you register through snail mail? They're limiting their user base!

In all seriousness, Twitter and Facebook are trending, and you might as well adopt them. Not doing so would strike me as a bit of technological ignorance.


Difference - all e-mail addresses follow the same standard. Twitter & FB are just two of many competing "social media" places.


I should join Twitter and Facebook just because everyone else is? And if I don't I'm technologically ignorant?


Isn't... that the definition of "technologically ignorant"?


I guess i'll go signup for every third party service to reach enlightenment. Thanks


I see this fairly often. Why not make an account solely for auth/signup on these sites. Most of the time people who say this talk about how they don't have the time, don't want to be on social media, concerns about privacy, etc. If you have an account just for logging in to FB Connect, it seems like the problems are alleviated.


I think the concern here is that, even if you make an account specifically for the purpose of authenticating to other websites, you're still telling Facebook, Google, Twitter... which websites you're signing up on, which they of course have an interest in knowing so that they can better profile you as a user.

Note: I have accounts on these sites and actively use them, just my guess as to other peoples' rationale behind not getting an account.


Implement Facebook Connect: 5 minutes. Implement own login system (with login screen, register screen, forgot your password screen, CAPTCHA, and making sure BCrypt is working properly): X hours. I'll do the former, even if it annoys 0.1% of possible users.


I have to add that your method makes it really easy to avoid lame sites also!


Implement Facebook Connect: 5 minutes

Implement own login system: X hours

Selling your users privacy down the river: Priceless


Wikipedia


I'm a big MMA fan and a Web developer.

Are you only pulling Strikeforce and UFC events? Are you thinking at some point pulling from more sources? For instance, Sherdog's event calendars and the like?

This is also very nice that was recently featured on MiddleEasy: https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=aHBsM3NmMG41bXVybW...


Right now i'm only pulling Strikeforce and UFC. Since the events are updated manually i don't really have the time right now to research and maintain cards for so many promotions. Perhaps with the use of something like mechanical turk it could be made manageable without breaking the bank.

I was trying to avoid scraping sherdog since i'm not sure of the legal ramifications of doing so. Felt a little bit safer using wikipedia.


Combat Picks was built to be a fun tool for MMA fans to make predictions/picks on fights. The site was built by two people (1 design - 1 code) over the course of about a month. I don't have any plans for monetization - we really just built the site as MMA fans to be able to provide a fun service to other people.

http://www.combatpicks.com/

We have lots of improvements in the pipeline - i'd love to hear some feedback/ideas on what we can improve.


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They just got 20 times the amount of page views though. If they provided a list that means you could have skipped through and decreased their page views.


Really? I stopped at the second one and decided to read this thread instead (where the currently top voted comment is a pertinent summary)


That's still twice the page views that they would have received if it was all on one page.


But way less user engagement / time on site / likelihood of me coming back


A data point to back this up: after reading high quality articles presented in a good fashion I have actually typed in and gone to http://www.theatlantic.com/. This was a good article presented as if it was on aol.


I wish people would stop worrying about page views, its a broken metric, always has been.


It's not a broken metric when you're selling ad impressions on each page view. It's how you make money.


i understand that's how ads are sold, but it does doesn't work.

the numbers are inaccurate, varying wildly depending on how you measure it (web server logs, analytics, etc), and its a horrible way for advertiser to measure ROI.


i don't think it's horrible, it's just not the only way.

"display advertising" isn't going away. just because someone doesn't click on something (or otherwise 'engage') at the moment of viewing doesn't mean that it was wasted. People remember stuff, and often won't act until they see something 8-10 times.

Just because there are other ways of measuring doesn't mean that using 'impressions' to gauge ROI is 'horrible'.


Would be interesting to see if companies like Google, who have a significant stake in a "free and open internet", could establish operations in Canada. Google wants users online as much as possible so they can continue to serve ads. It's too bad all that dark fiber they own doesn't extend into Canada.


Canadian telecom providers must (by law) be majority Canadian owned. So sadly no, Google could not do this.


Google has three offices in Canada: http://www.google.com/corporate/address.html


I don't use Facebook because I think it's social circle-jerking occupied by a majority of people who are only interested in inflating their own perceived image.


Thank you very much - I think this is a great promotion for you and your customers. No better way to get new users then a free trial.

A little feedback on the presentation - this is strictly IMHO. I started reading the features and was presented with statements like "super-sexy interface" and "Finally, a tool that magically converts visitors into customers" - a little pretentious perhaps. Personally when i read things like calling your own interface super-sexy and magical a tech savvy person like myself may be turned off thinking this tool is for non-tech oriented (that's the message your marketing is sending me by telling people it's magical).

On the main page where you list the features you have a quick 2 minute intro which is fantastic (wish more people did that). One thing that might be improved on is integrating some type of case-study. When i sell software i want to sell a solution, not a tool. Focus part of the features presentation around a case study so at a glance someone like myself can watch the video, see the problem presented and quickly understand how it worked for someone else and how it can work for me too.


Thanks so much for your feedback.

We do have some case studies on the site http://visualwebsiteoptimizer.com/case-studies.php -- did you mean you wanted to see such case studies?


I did see the case studies - that was nice. Just suggesting that you integrate a case study into part of the product tour presentation as I think it could help bridge the disconnect between tool and solution to a problem. For me, it's easier to understand not just what a tool does but how it will solve a problem for me. I understand features more when I see practical applications.


I see. Yes, right now product tour demonstrates the features but putting in an actual case study can really drive home the point of A/B testing. Thanks for this feedback.


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