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I think the most reasonable take would be to just tell the users hardware is borked, they're going to have a bad outside the game too, and point them to one of the many guides around this topic.

I don't think engineering effort should ever be put into handling literal bad hardware. But, the user would probably love you for letting them know how to fix all the crashing they have while they use their broken computer!

To counter that, we're LONG overdue for ECC in all consumer systems.


I put engineering effort into handling bad hardware all the time because safety critical, :)

It significantly overlaps the engineering to gracefully handle non-hardware things like null pointers and forgetting to update one side of a communication interface.

80/20 rule, really. If you're thoughtful about how you build, you can get most of the benefits without doing the expensive stuff.


I think I sit in another camp. A lot of my engineering efforts are in working around bad hardware.

Better the user sees some lag due to state rebuild versus a crash.

Most consumers have what they have, and use what they have. Upgrading everything is now rare. If they got screwed, they'll remain screwed for a few years.


The interviewer should be less competent. That's the goal. The only alternative is that everyone trends dumber as the org grows. Usually you're trying to hire an expert in something. It can't be a necessity that the interviewer is an expert in all things they need to hire for, or even most competent in their field! You want your org to increase competence.

And, I think that's what causes the slow demise of corporations: the "hire dumb" is much easier. It's hard to get a read on intelligence/competence/skill if you're less of any of those, so, on average, orgs do get dumber. What's the best shield against stupidity? Bureaucracy! :D


Any idea what the % is? Absolutes don't really make sense without being compared to the number of correct deportations. Detaining someone, for more information, isn't always unreasonable. For example, I was in a car accident with someone, and was not allowed to leave until the situation was understood. Was I wrongfully detained? Of course not. It was part of the due process.

When you were detained it was in service of understanding an accident. When these Americans are detained it’s because they were racially profiled. The courts may decide that’s due process now but they didn’t believe so years ago and there is quite an ugly history to that practice.

This article is from October of last year. It’s very hard to get current numbers. https://www.propublica.org/article/immigration-dhs-american-...


Every administration since the foundation of ICE has removed illegal immigrants and funded ICE and immigration policy/border operations [1].

[1] Removals by president: https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/biden-deportation-re...


Every developed country on earth has an immigration policy and an administration dedicated to enforcing it.

No other developed countries have masked goons abducting people in public wearing civil clothes and masks and disregarding every laws of the country (violating private property and foreign embassies, deporting national citizens, and numerous other preposterous bullshit).

Immigration policy enforcement is normal, the madness that has been running in the US for a year isn't.


Yes what's happening is totally normal, everybody does it all the time.

Yes, but the difference in degree, and how are material. The big showy Hyundai plant raid is an example of something that hasn't happened before. Under Obama there were I-9 audits of Infosys, and under Clinton there was a raid of a Filiberto's, but both of those weren't of foreign workers here to train Americans.

It also compresses memory. Many things in ram compress really well.

Memory compression is a feature on Windows PCs for years (decades maybe?), it somehow doesn't prevent people from raising valid complaints about swapping with 8Gb or RAM.

I wonder, why is it physically painful for some Apple owners to admit that 8Gb is not enough. Like, I'm using PCs for years and I will be the first in line to point their deficiencies and throw a deserved stone at MS, they never cease to provide reasons. Why is it so different at the Apple?


Because 8GB is literally enough? There are multiple 8GB Macs in this house and they are fine. I wouldn't use them for development work but they're completely competent at the basics.

What's basics? Of course one can always overbuy hardware compared to the tasks but we are discussing some usage more fitting to the laptop form factor. I would argue that for a laptop a basics is at least some kind of office white collar work or similar. And so it is most likely that at least 2-3 of the Electron monstrosities would be used, an office package or something along the lines, multiple loaded tabs in a browser a few of which will be memory leaking enterprise crap, a few communication apps etc. Nothing really outlandish, only handful of apps, but because they are all fat, they will eat the 3Gb margin super fast and start caching.

The storage is fast enough to not be too much of an issue, and the basics would be mostly a web browser, a lot of things can be done with only it, and if you need to do more than web browser, text editors, you probably should want more than the Neo in the first place

Tons of 8GB users out there who are happy. I'm on 16GB and its definitely enough for a power user - and running multiple coding environments, Docker, IDE's. MacOS is really good with caching.

> I wonder, why is it physically painful for some Apple owners

This wasn't necessary. I was just pointing out that 8GB hardware is not the full story. It's also true with windows, as you correctly point out. If you're coming from a slow SSD, or even Linux (it's a relatively new feature to have on by default) you might be pleasantly surprised.

Also, I'm an Apple owner and I have no problem saying it's not enough for anyone on this website. I tried it for a few years as my "second screen" computer, and would bump against it all the time, with glorious screeching as the audio skipped. But, I'm also a developer/power user.

The majority of people aren't power users.and that's the target audience for this. Clearly.

8GB has been completely fine for every non power user I know. Again, the majority of people do everything within a browser, maybe play some music/video at the same time, maybe open an office type app. It's completely acceptable for that, and that should not surprise you, as someone who has an understanding of memory usage and paging, and high bandwidth SSDs, in the slightest.


Gruber said something[0] that parallels your point, and emphasizes the target audience for this Mac:

> If you know the difference between sRGB and P3, the Neo is not the MacBook you want.

Apple has made extensive tradeoffs to make this price point, but they all seem to be reasonable tradeoffs for casual users.

[0]: https://daringfireball.net/2026/03/599_not_a_piece_of_junk_m...


Perhaps because it's enough for a lot of things. I only came up against the 8GB limit when I ran a LLM locally using Ollama. It worked but wasn't workable.

8GB isn't ideal though and 16GB would've expanded its capacity to do more things. But soon as I want to do more things I shuffle over to my PC with it's dedicated GPU and 32GB o ram

I'm guessing Apple cuts capability to the lower end so as not to hurt sales of the higher end. Usage profile is often dependent on context. There are enough non-power users (when mobile) like me that 8GB isn't ideal but it's enough. And if it wasn't enough we could've paid more for the 16GB, but I personally decided it wasn't worth the ridiculous Apple ram price premium.

So these are my reasons for saying 8GB is enough. I'm also using an M1 MacBook Air, so the puniest of the lineup. Next laptop I'm considering is possibly a think pad with linux so I'm no macOS fanboi.


Where I am at least, people using less power because power because power need to profit more, is wild.

They literally had record profits the last few years, rather than being forced to lay down solar. I think power should be a global endeavor, not some local for profit business with complete regulatory capture that makes competition illegal.

Yes I'm angry, because I pay more in electric than most anywhere in the world. If I charge my care with LEVEL 2 using city provided charges, during the day, it's more expensive than gas.


Energy security is national security.

Cheap electricity means you can do things that made "no sense" with expensive electricity. (e.g. smelt aluminum)

Cheap electricity means you can underbid regions that have expensive electricity...

As Technology Connections said, "Panels that cover your electrical needs for the next 25+ years? In the Midwest, we call that a good deal!"


I love Technology Connections, but he has no idea what discounting is in economics. Or at least he writes his videos as if he doesn't.

What discount rate are you using?

Solar has one of the lowest capital costs [1] so the discounting works in it's favor. And then the non-discountable operating costs also works in its favor since the fuel supply (light) is free.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cost_of_electricity_by_source#...


Yup. It's why even in fairly red states like my own (Idaho) solar, wind, and battery are going up everywhere. Even without significant subsidies the economics are really good for renewables.

They'd be even better if we didn't have extreme tariffs on China.

That's actually what's convinced me that renewables are a better choice than nuclear. I still like nuclear, but renewables are just so much easier and faster to deploy while being a lot cheaper. To make nuclear competitive requires regulatory changes along with a government that's simply willing to tell it's NIMBY citizens YIMBY.

Government literally has to get in the way of renewable deployments at this point to stop them.


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Where does that 0.3 TW figure come from? That seems awfully high.

Oops it’s actually 0.6 TW.

https://ourworldindata.org/energy-production-consumption

Convert TWh to TW for a year average.


Huh! I'm kind of stunned that we only use ~30x the power that we did back then. If I'd been asked to guess I would have added another 0 or even two of them.

Yeah we had an exponential jump when we discovered oil but we maxed that out and the growth has been linear since (and paying for it environmentally too).

I’m waiting for the next big major discovery in energy generation.

We’re always on the verge of fusion… fusion will be like the discovery of oil. Humanity will jump forward… well, technologically at least.


You're trying to converse with a LLM. It's made up.

Nope it’s 100% legit and I even remembered it wrong. It’s actually 0.6 TW.

You can get the number of TW from this report https://ourworldindata.org/energy-production-consumption

Convert TWh to TW for a year average.


jfc. What is the point? What do people get out of doing that?

I don't know, but HN in particular has an AI-sycophancy problem where I see this most common versus other link aggregator sites.

is that a sustained 20TW? Absolutely crazy that we're generating 60kwh per person daily. Where does it all go?

Lots of it is lost to heat with legacy fossil generation.

You have pretty much the same heat losses with nuclear, or anything else where you heat water to turn a turbine.

Nuclear is low carbon, it’s fine we lose heat to extract that energy versus stationary and mobile combustion generation, as there is no other effective way to extract that energy at this time.

Quantification of global waste heat and its environmental effects - https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S03062... - Applied Energy Volume 235, 1 February 2019, Pages 1314-1334

* 49.3–51.5% of global energy use would end up as waste heat in 2030.

* Transport sector accounts for the largest (43%) recoverable waste heat in 2030.


To note, we are almost at installing 1TW of solar PV every year globally.

Most of those technologies also need uninterrupted power supplies. Something wind, solar and batteries for the next 50 years aren't.

> Something wind, solar and batteries for the next 50 years aren't.

False. If you'd stopped before the "and" you would have been correct, though.

Batteries are really cheap now, and supply of batteries is growing basically as fast as people can get the investments and permissions for the inputs and the factories.


Pumped hydro is one solution. You bank the excess wind/solar using gravitational potential energy and then draw on that whenever you need to.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinorwig_Power_Station


Yes, we just need to build the mountains first.

Yeah, or water towers. No need to play god here.

Pumped hydro energy storage relies on the cheapness of water and existing geology. If you have to build the chambers instead of damming a river it's too expensive. Most of the good spots to have a reservoir are already used. If you have to manufacture the bulk media instead of just using water it's too expensive.

Pumped hydro doesn't need a river, "just"* rock which isn't water porous and some nearby body of water (lake, sea, whatever).

The economics works out even if you were lifting concrete blocks rather than water, hence why you get pictures like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Energy_Vault_Test_Tower_2...

The argument against lifting concrete is that you can dig a hole in the ground an pump water in/out of it for more reliability and lower cost than having a crane lift and lower concrete, and it's easy to make it much bigger both horizontally and vertically, so why bother.

But it does appear to be economical even with that, and water is cheaper.

We make lots of holes in the ground on a regular basis, including for extracting fossil fuels. Here's two, note scale bar, though I have no idea what the rock around it is like regarding water losses: https://www.google.com/maps/@50.9063171,6.4418046,17655m/dat...

* it's never "just" with things on this scale


There are exactly zero economically viable pumped water storage systems where water towers are involved. If you do the math for the amount of a mass of water, you'll see why! It's not feasible.

Indeed, you can get a sense of the scale on the Dinorwig wikipedia page and the pages it links to.

It has a storage capacity of about 9.1GWh.

The upper reservoir (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marchlyn_Mawr) holds 9.2 million cubic meters of water.

So 1 million cubic meters of water provides ~1GWh.

We can see how that compares in terms of raw GPE (Gravitational Potential Energy):

1 million cubic meters of water = 1E6 * 1E3 kg = 1E9 kg

There's roughly a 500m vertical drop between the upper and lower takes at Dinorwig so:

1E9 kg * 500 m * 9.8 m/(s^2) = 4.9E12 J =~ 1.36GWh

As for water towers, if you look at something like the Roihuvuori tower in Helsinki (from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_tower) which is one of the largest:

Height: 52m, Capacity: 12000 cubic meters

If we are generous and say that all of the water is stored at the maximum height then:

12000 * 1E3 kg * 52m * 9.8 m/(s^2) =~ 1.7MWh

You'd need over 5000 of them to match what Dinorwig can provide.


Ember Energy: Solar electricity every hour of every day is here and it changes everything - https://ember-energy.org/latest-insights/solar-electricity-e... - June 21st, 2025

> Batteries are now cheap enough to unleash solar’s full potential, getting as close as 97% of the way to delivering constant electricity supply 24 hours across 365 days cost-effectively in the sunniest places.

What does this mean? It means we are most of the way there with solar and batteries alone, even if we need a bit of carbon based generation to bridge the gap while solar and battery deployments scale globally. Solar and batteries will only continue to get less expensive and better.

Our World In Data: Installed solar energy capacity - https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/installed-solar-pv-capaci...

Solar PV go brrr.


Have you heard of batteries?

> They literally had record profits the last few years, rather than being forced to lay down solar. I think power should be a global endeavor, not some local for profit business with complete regulatory capture that makes competition illegal.

Sounds more like you guys should be lowering barriers to entry, not setting up a global non-profit cartel.


True. I suggested global because it allows for scale with copy/paste designs, where things like nuclear could actually become viable.

Where I am, we have a solidly aligned state government. There's no concept of consequences for anyone in power. They're paid by the local companies to pass laws to make competition legal. Some are investors. All corrupt. That's what you get with a solid political alignment.


Vote with your feet (and wallet), and support anything that makes people voting with their feet easier.

It's the McDonald's theory of policy: you don't vote on their burgers at the ballot box, you just go to Burger King or get a doner kebab, if you don't like it.


Australia I assume?

Generally, only addicts steal from poorer people.

And, where I am, you're more likely to have a gun if you're poor, because there's more exposure to crime, resulting in a much more realistic understanding that the police won't save you in an emergency.


wage theft is a much larger crime

police in the US also steal more than robbers, as a factual statistic

Or, just buy any of the many pages of hidden cam devices that exist on Amazon, which also aren't limited to only 3 minute videos.

This is somewhat handled by the max recording time of 3 minutes.

Before my iPhone I had Android with custom ROMs, tricked out UI, bunches of system automations, etc.

Now I want to spend exactly 0 seconds a day on any of that, and would never buy something that caused me to exceed that 0 seconds. I want an appliance in my pocket, when my car breaks down or I need to be in touch. I do my fun stuff elsewhere.


It's weird to me that people keep saying that.

How on Earth is iPhone more "appliancy" than regular Android? If anything, it's more annoying than Android with all the Apple inconsistencies. The settings UI, for example, is just plain broken. The gesture UI is finger-breakingly inconsistent, while Android has a simple reliable 3-button bottom bar.


The most appliance thing about it is continued updates for and switching to a new device.

If you stick with Samsung, the issues I've had probably go away.

> gesture UI is finger-breakingly inconsistent

I'm not familiar with this, at all. The app switching is actually my favorite feature about iPhone. So easy to flip between two apps. I don't use a case, so maybe that's related.


I've been using Pixel devices for a decade. I don't remember any issues with moving? I think the only bothersome thing was re-authentication in some apps after the move.

It typically took me maybe an hour to move devices? Including moving to a non-Google phone once when I broke my phone during a foreign trip and had to get a temporary replacement.

> I'm not familiar with this, at all. The app switching is actually my favorite feature about iPhone. So easy to flip between two apps. I don't use a case, so maybe that's related.

I can't get it to switch consistently. On Android it's dead easy and reliable with a nav bar. On iPhone it's often not registering a gesture if I swipe too fast or don't start swiping from the very bottom.


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