Same. I watched Apollo 11 launch in 1969 when I was four. Watched on our neighbor's TV. We didn't have one.

Imagine what we could accomplish if we didn't suck.

I’m not American. The Artemis launch feels to me like a beacon that the America the rest of us looked up to isn’t gone.

I've never understood this hyper-utilitarian perspective. It just seems divorced from what emotionally inspires most people.

Most of what people find inspiring doesn't directly provide a lot of objective utility, and is often quite dangerous for the individuals who choose to participate. Reaching the highest peaks in the last century, antarctic expeditions, pushing the limits of racing vehicles, attempting a sub two hour marathon, and athletes defining new tricks and styles in extreme sports are all objectively pretty useless in terms of their direct outputs -- and yet I find it all a whole lot more inspiring than my computer getting twice as fast, even if the latter is of way more objective utility to my life.

Min-maxing ROI in a spreadsheet just doesn't do it for me in the same way. There's absolutely a place for that and in a world of limited resources it should be how we spend most of our effort, and it is! The amount of money spent on efforts like this is _tiny_ at the scale of nations, and is certainly a much smaller and better use of funds than wars and corruption.

I also don't understand why people get their whole identity wrapped up in watching people play a kids game. (football, baseball...). Sure playing is fun, but watching someone else play

Getting people to the moon is plentry useful for getting an objective you can hang all kinds of useful advancements off.

Then you are wrong (and maybe MAGA? to ignore facts like that). An estimated three orders of magnitude of more science was done in the 12 days astronauts were on the moon than if robots had done those missions. HSF costs about, but it returns a lot of results as well.

>(and maybe MAGA? to ignore facts like that)

What an odd thing to bring up out of nowhere.

It may not be useful but we'll do it anyway. And then it may come to have utility.

> then it may come to have utility.

Maybe, but at what cost? What are we not getting/doing because we are doing this instead? This is of course an unanswerable question, but it is the correct response here - you are getting so focused on what this might gain that you forget that other things also have gains. Time is not unlimited, people who are working on space could work on something different instead, but they cannot do both.

That’s fair but the amount of interest in this crewed mission vs. prior uncrewed and robotic moon missions shows that many people find manned missions more compelling.

We didn't have robots in 1969, and the Apollo missions resulted in many of the technologies that make modern robotics (and robotic space missions) possible.

> very disruptive to SpaceX

And to most everything else

I just wish that SQL Server had a materialize keyword like Postgres.

I'll write some nice clean CTEs and then have to refactor it to temp tables due to the lack of materialization.

I went looking and have to agree. There's no legit news source with any real numbers.

Perhaps this will be higher than the standard 10% cull, but I suspect not that much higher.

I don't know why any sane human would think we've come anywhere close to passing the Turing test.

A human that can't tell a machine from a person has issues.

I wrote my first AI agent (well a backpropagation model, LOL) in Excel on Mac in 1988. It could only handle several thousand parameters. But it was very cool to see the model in operation.

I disagree as it shows a fundamental flaw in terms of separation of concerns that's probably manifest throughout the operating system.

Or to stay it another way, if we see shit like this then we know the whole thing is a hack.

Hmm, that's a good point actually! Hadn't considered that!

It’s like the famous artist putting a clause in a contract that they wanted bowls of M&Ms with the blue ones removed.

Not because they necessarily cared, but because it functions as an easy-to-verify proxy for whether the venue actually read the contract.

The artist was the band Van Halen; the forbidden color was brown

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/brown-out/

Eh, it might be or it might not, why is that a valid indication that everything else is wack? There certainly are other things that are bad, maybe many, evidently, but I don't think the corner problem is a fair indicator of that exactly. Numerous things can be discretely bad and poorly directed without there being some ebola virus of bad throughout

> compared to Windows

I never said that

Well sure we can compare it to niche OS like Linux or vaporware. But without comparison then we probably aren’t taking into account the real life complexity of a desktop OS.

As a related anecdote, my friend said my car was ugly. I asked him what cars he thought looked good. He said “I don’t like cars”. As a result I realized his opinion was worthless

Calling linux niche is funny. Most used OS on the planet.

I guess you are only interested in the desktop looks part which on Linux is done by different window managers (like KDE, Gnome, Sway, ...) which can compete with MacOS in my view.

I was recently forced to switch from Gnome to MacOS Tahoe and the UX is so bad it's frustrating. Mission Control has no features apart from switching windows it seems (can not close windows, not change dock icons which all works on Gnome). Password fields often have no option to view the cleartext entered. This is especially confusing because symbols that I used daily are suddenly not printed on my keyboard anymore and I have to memorize shortcuts to enter them. In finder I see no way to go to the parent folder, isn't that something people on macs do? It just feels like it's years behind open source alternatives...

Concerning your car story: have you tried other Operating systems? Otherwise your opinion might be worthless here...

On the desktop, yes, niche. [There are things like Android with a Linux kernel that I wouldn't call Linux in the sense of a full OS.]

You can compare it to prior versions of macOS, if you insist on assessing it from a relativistic standpoint. Apple didn't have this issue 10 years ago.

Apple didn't have this issue 1 year ago :-)

I know it's popular to shit on Windows (and often it's even justified), however DOS compatibility is long gone. It was still available in 32 bit Windows 10, but not in 64 bit versions.

I came here to say the same. Even with my student discount price of $1000, that's over 3K in today's dollars.

We are so freaking spoiled by the cheap cost of compute now.

Isn't part of this Microsoft preparing for the requirement to do age verification in the OS?

It has more to do with Microsoft deciding to emulate Google and Facebook's surveillance capitalism business model.

If you combine mandatory online user accounts with telemetry and Windows Recall, you have a system for building out advertising profiles linked to known individuals.

I get that. But it's also the case that they can justify this by claiming that they have to do it for each verification.

I agree. Don't bar anyone.

But do require KYC on all customers and require their profiles and wagers to be public. The societal values of prediction market data would be an order of magnitude more valuable this way.

And use of illegal insider info would cease.