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macOS has slid a long way down the quality ladder over the past ten years.

In what way? Tahoe's UI SNAFU aside, it seems like it's basically just a more polished version of the older macOS versions from a decade ago.

I run into bugs every day. It wakes, and has a black screen not wallpaper. Change spaces and the focus is wrong for half a second. Login screen is a pain because it collapses all users together. Notifications don’t scroll if they stop scrolling when the cursor is over a gap between them. Something on the system constantly eats disk space, and I think it’s the system updates. If I dock two apps in one space, sometimes one is black. If I zoom out to the Spaces overview it shows fine in the preview though. In the Terminal if I close a tab it can focus an entirely different window.

I could go on for hours. It’s a buggy mess these days and I miss Lion and Snow Leopard desperately.


Unless these problems only started after an upgrade to Tahoe, I would strongly suspect defective hardware in your case.

Yes, these got a lot worse after Tahoe. The past few versions have all had issues on multiple machines.

None of this sounds like a hardware error. Something like notification scrolling is simple bad programming and bad QA. You scroll the list of them, but when the mouse cursor ends up on a gap between them, the new scroll event doesn't apply. They're all individual even though shown together.

Or a black screen on wake - that has the mouse cursor and login prompt, it just sometimes doesn't load the wallpaper or does it slowly. Not hardware - just something buggy. It's unbelievable when I compare to Leopard or whichever version it was introduced the rotating 'cube' of login screens, which always had wallpaper and loaded fast. Here we are fifteen years later with incredibly better hardware and the thing lags.

Same for the rest.


Nothing mentioned in the previous comment is indicative of a hardware problem. If you think I'm wrong, please describe a plausible mechanism to cause any of the problems described above. They all are plausibly software bugs. I mean, Apple hardware is not really any better than any other piece of fallible hardware, and their OS has been a buggy mess since Apple DOS. Most pieces of software as large as an OS are buggy in many ways, and Apple has not been proven to be the exception.

In the java triggers a crash in apples IO library and they wont fix it way.

What's the crash?

Fast user switching turned into excruciatingly slow user switching.

For all its faults I do still like modern macOS, but it is a far cry from the beauty that was Mac OS X 10.6.8 (Snow Leopard).

Oh, I completely agree. But they can get away with it because we depend on the platform more than the individual apps.

And yes, Tahoe is shiny hot garbage piled on top of so much broken software, just to push an effect trick. I'm not sure how I feel developing with SwiftUI when Apple clearly can't make it work for their own apps.


> we depend on the platform more than the individual apps

The only way you actually depend on the platform is if you do Mac OS / iOS development.

However, I happen to work on a project that requires both Windows and Linux, so I get reminders every day of why I should stay on Mac OS as desktop.

Caveat 1: no, I'm not upgrading to Tahoe or iOS 26.

Caveat 2: I wouldn't dream of running a server on anything but Linux. Desktops with a GUI though...

The problem that fucks us over is that Mac OS only has to be better than the competition.


With all the valid reasons not to upgrade to iOS 26, here's one strongly suggesting doing so:

https://cloud.google.com/blog/topics/threat-intelligence/dar...


That only reinforces Apple being assholes. They are perfectly capable of delivering security updates to ios 18, they just choose to not do that for phones that can run 26.

By the way does that mean you can root a phone that's on iOS 18.6? :)


> The problem that fucks us over is that Mac OS only has to be better than the competition.

I'm with you here, but I'm having a _much_ better time on my Linux machines (KDE and Cinnamon Mint) than on my (unbelievably-powerful-but-for-what) M4 Max MBP. It's so much cleaner, even without having upgraded to Tahoe, and imagine that I don't even like tinkering that much, it just works.


I was using KDE when I switched to Mac OS from Linux as my main desktop (2013 ish).

Must admit I've only looked at the default desktop in Ubuntu in the past years, and that's ... disappointing.

Maybe I should look at how KDE is these days, but it's a second class citizen in most major distros isn't it? Except in this Mint i've never tried.

I also have this fetish for cool and quiet. Can I run KDE on a box that idles at 10 W and never turns the fan audibly on?


> Except in this Mint i've never tried

Well, Cinammon is the windows manager for Mint, it's the barebones experience that's the closest to Windows (?) style, it's mostly what you see is what you get, but still very customizable.

KDE used to be extremely buggy 5-6 years ago and since testing it on my Steam Deck, from my experience, this is no longer the case. It's a bit more feature-rich and flashier than Cinnamon.

> Can I run KDE on a box that idles at 10 W and never turns the fan audibly on?

No laptop I'm aware of will do this, no idea about ARM adoption.

Personally I'm glad to have a windows manager that doesn't force dumb decisions down my throat. On MacOS I have to wait for half a second for the focus to land on the next window when I switch desktops, the only workaround exists as a minor feature recently introduced to BetterSwitchTool called instant desktop switching or something. And it's to be mentioned ofcourse that for all similar fixes you _must_ give full screen recording and accessibility permissions to 3rd party software. And don't get me started on the stupid windows management (maximize != full-screen, minimized windows not recoverable with keyboard only etc)


> No laptop I'm aware of will do this, no idea about ARM adoption.

Oh the 10 W is my mac mini. The macbook pro idles at 5 W, display included :)

> you _must_ give full screen recording and accessibility permissions to 3rd party software

Well what do you expect? If Linux/KDE had a permissions system you'd have to grant it too.

> maximize != full-screen

Um. Yes. They should be different. They've been different ever since we had windows on screen in any system that I'm aware of.

Not that I'm a major fan of window management on Mac OS, I just got used to it.


Sure, but relative to windows…

Wow, what a shitty thing to say.

It was someone else who posted it to HN, too.


>Petro is pretty much upstream of everything: [...] cooking oils

Wait, what?


Petro is often used to transport cooking oils from the farmers to the retailers, so without it, cooking oil is going to be hard to source.

>WiFi

>1600W EIRP

Your local regulatory authority would like a word with you.


I hold a licence that allows me to transmit on pretty much whatever frequency I like with as much power as I like, wherever I like.

Someone has to test the transmitter before you hand it off to the customer.

Also, I'm in the UK, where it's hard enough to get the regulatory authorities to do anything about people causing interferenced to licensed chunks of band. You can wipe out the whole of 2.4GHz if you like, you literally could not pay them to take an interest.

Edit: also you have probably done the same a couple of times today too.


So I thought your initial comment was a (pretty good) joke about using a microwave oven, but now I’m not sure. Is this testing license you reference a continuation of the joke or a real thing?

The testing licence is real but the comment was a joke about microwaving some sauce base :-)

>a device whose core functionality [...] is both trivial and has no inherent need for internet connectivity.

For a while I've given a hard pass to anything which requires an app for such functionality, knowing full well that eventually I'll be locked out of it (not to mention the privacy implications of such designs).

I encourage others to follow suit.


What fucking racist shit is this?!

>the international standard

Except the United States, because of course.

ISO is 134 kHz, US has both 125 and 128 kHz.


lol - the long tail of international standard dissent in US

>he [...] was on the right side of history in regards to Lithium-Ion battery evolution.

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.


A stopped clock is right 730 times per year.

What an incredibly well-written article.

What Raspberry? I don't see any Raspberry.

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